BlackBerry Torch 9800 VS the iPhone 4
The new BlackBerry Torch 9800 was given its official release of August 12th today and shown off in its release form. Its official specifications were also made available, allowing the first real comparison between Research In Motion’s (RIM) much awaited smartphone and Apple’s iPhone 4. While Apple managed to beat RIM to the market with its iPhone 4, the smartphone has suffered from a number of problems, including the much publicized ‘Antennagate’ antenna attenuation problem that occurred when it was held in a ‘death grip’ around the lower left corner. While dubbed the ‘death grip,’ the name had nothing to do with a strong grip, it was because of the way it killed the signal bars and resulted in dropped calls even with a light touch. So how has the new Torch 9800–looks like the name Slider is out along with Bold–demonstrated that RIM has learned some lessons from the emergence of serious smartphone competitors in the past three years? Read on and I will compare the new Torch to the new iPhone.
- Size (LxWxD): 4.4″ x 2.4″ x 0.57″ when closed, 5.8″ x 2.4″ x 0.57″ when open
- Weight: 5.7 ounces
- Memory: 512MB of flash memory
- Storage: 4GB of internal storage memory
- Expandable Storage: included 4GB microSD card, expandable to 32GB
- Screen: half VGA+ (360 x 480 at 3.2 inches diagonally)
- Keyboard: 35 key QWERTY with backlighting and on screen keyboard
- Camera: 5 megapixel with flash
- Video Camera: 640 x 480
- Front-facing Camera: none
- Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g/n
- Bluetooth: 2.1 with A2DP/AVCRP
- Operating System: BlackBerry OS 6
The Official Specs of the iPhone 4
- Size (LxWxD): 4.5″ x 2.31″ x 0.37″
- Weight: 4.8 ounces
- Memory: 512MB of RAM
- Storage: 16 or 32GB depending on model
- Expandable Storage: none
- Screen: 960 x 640 (3.5″ diagonally)
- Keyboard: On screen, no physical keyboard

- Camera: 5 megapixel with flash
- Video Camera: 720p HD capable
- Front-facing Camera: VGA quality
- Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g/n
- Bluetooth: 2.1 + EDR
- Operating System: iOS 4
Comparison between the Torch 9800 and the iPhone 4
Both the Torch 9800 and the iPhone 4 are excellent smartphones and arguably two of the most advanced available. However, each does have some unique features. For example, if you really want or need to do video calling, then the iPhone 4 is the better option since it is the only one with a front facing camera. Keep in mind though, that the other party will need an iPhone 4 also, unless you are willing to use third party software like Fringe. At the same time, the iPhone 4 lacks a physical keyboard and an expandable storage option.
Besides these features, the iPhone 4 does have a noticeably sharper and larger screen. However, since the smartphone lacks a physical keyboard, to input text you will have to use the on screen one, which does cut into available screen real estate. As for the cameras, BlackBerry OS 6 brings a slew of new features including auto-focus, facial recognition and scene setup to the new Torch. The iPhone 4, while lacking some of those features, does have the ability to shoot in 720p HD video and is capable of editing video. The Torch, unfortunately, is not able to shoot video in HD.
Then we get to the feel of the two devices. The iPhone 4 is incredibly thin and light, however the 9800 Torch has a solid feel to it and the sliding keyboard mechanize works excellently. The Torch does not feel off balanced when it is held open either, as I am sure some have worried would be the case. Result? The physical dimensions of these smartphones are both good enough that they should not factor into your decision on which one to go for.
Unfortunately, both of these phones are only available through AT&T at the moment. Though, I am sure the Torch will find an additional carrier and the iPhone is rumored to be coming to Verizon sometime around the end of the year. Of course, always take the Verizon iPhone rumors with a grain of salt, as they have persisted since 2007.
So which phone is the better one? That is a difficult question to answer. BlackBerry OS 6 is very impressive and was truly built from the ground up with touchscreen support. Also, SurePress technology does not appear on the Torch 9800, which is surely a relief to those who hated the Storm series. At the same time however, if you are okay with using a bumper case with the iPhone 4 to prevent any signal issues, the sharp screen and HD video ability is a major plus. Both of these phones will do what you need to. The one you prefer will probably just have to come down to which manufacturer you like more, if you need video calling, and if you prefer a physical keyboard.
I am sure that you all have an opinion already, so let the comments fly. Is ‘Antennagate’ too big of a deal to consider the iPhone 4? The lack of HD video abilities in the Torch a problem? Want these phones on another carrier? Let me know!



iPhone 4 kills this phone!!! Thez no competition here!!! cumon Especially on the Apps!! Kendurha don’t even be stupid enough to compare the appstore/ itunes to the shity app world!!!!!!!. If u looking for a phone for chating,receiving emails,etc bla,bla, bla!! Get a Blackberry!! buh if u looking for a phone with an iPod,An App for almost anything and a gaming device, HD TV-Out, Mobile TV, NOT TO MENTION ‘FACETIME’!!! iPhone is the best 4 ya!!!! XD
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iPhone 4 kills this phone!!! Thez no competition here!!! cumon Especially on the Apps!! Kendurha don’t even be stupid enough to compare the appstore/ itunes to the shity app world!!!!!!!. If u looking for a phone for chating,receiving emails,etc bla,bla, bla!! Get a Blackberry!! buh if u looking for a phone with an iPod,An App for almost anything and a gaming device, HD TV-Out, Mobile TV, NOT TO MENTION ‘FACETIME’!!! iPhone is the best 4 ya!!!!
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pls.,email me whats best for TEENAGER? blackberry or iphone4! Im always weak in choices.,like aplle or sony vaio? I chosen the sony vaio., now.,pls.,,help me.,imma teenager! blackberyy or iphone?
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You guys are all a bunch of nerds. I just want to know if the BB Torch will do wifi calling like the bold will for T-Mobile.
I’ve got a bb 9700, make calls for free to all over the world and from all over the world – for free. I get my email, surf reports, book flights, use my phone as a boarding pass and do my banking on my blackberry. Oh and if I drop it, the screen won’t shatter, nor will the back of the phone.
Go play World of Warcraft, ya buncha kooks!
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For those yammering about how secure blackberrys are, please note. The US government has the ability to investigate and seize any messages/records from mobile data transmissions. Much the same access that the oppressive mid-east governents want. So stop with this super secure blackberry talk. Also of note, this article isn’t exactly unbiased, as evidenced by a single statement. The reviewer plays down the significantly heavier torch as having a solid feel to it. I’m not exactly sure how anyone could call the iPhone less solid in comparison. The torch is a slider for goodness sake…please.
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In my mind, blackberry is mainly commercial phone, and the iphone is the representative of open and fashion~~
for me ,i don’t like torch, though, the torch 9800 has the tendency toward fashion smartphone, but Compared with iphone and google android there are still many needs to improve ,now,i am using iphone 4.meanwhile, combining my aneesoft iphone video converter, i really think my iphone 4 is perfect!!!
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If you have APPLE iPHONE, you are a HIPSTER. FACT
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A Blackberry slider with the new Version will be awesome. Only the disply resolution is a little down for me. But otherwise it looks like a good smartphone to buy.
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Hey!! new idea!!! (light bulb)-Try comparing new release phones, to another phone instead of the iPhone4 for a change…evo vs iphone droid x vs iphone blackberry vs iphone ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ….
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@ king, let me guess , you must be an Iphone p##Y lover ,if not a retarded blackberry user who thinks he’s cool with his outdated blackberry , well it doesn’t really matter when its obvious you have something against Android , common sense ? lol haha yeah the only thing that makes sense on this post is that both Iphone and Blackberry suck and yeah BBM your buddies about my comment or download an app to go F** yourself
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Carrie Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
@Jos3, the problem is, not all providers offer other good phones, so when youre locked into a contract yet need a new phone and want out early youre kind of stuck …………..you choose what you can and apparantly the iphone and torch are the top two comparable to an android. lol you need a chill pill,
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Are u really making a comparison of these two phones? iPhone 4 blows this phone out of the water. 360×480 screen come on rim it’s 2010 that resolution with the sliding mechanism is 2005. You failed to mention app store which is a Big plus for smartphones these days. I have an iPhone 4 and I have not yet lost reception because of the antenna issue. And no I don’t have a bumper or a case. I actually have better service with my 4 than I did with the 3GS. All those small features os6 has iPhone has and app for that.
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Kendurha Reply:
December 7th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
@Jake, You’re an idiot. BlackBerry also has Apps dumb ass. Crackberry. com and BlackBerry Apps world, god dammit. Your one stupid idiot. Also YOU failed to mention that with BlackBerry you can download free ringtones, games, back ground and everything straight from the internet without having to connect and “make” your ringtones like you do with a iPhone, dumb ass. iPhone’s don’t get instant free ringtones like BlackBerry, BlackBerry has MANY , upon MANY more options then iPhone. Alright?
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I have had the Blackberry Bold for the past 18 months and it has been the worst phone I have ever owned. I will never recommend the Blackberry phone to anyone, I have had the phone replaced 6 times under warranty with many different problems. When I spoke with the AT&T rep. they said they have had many complaints with the Blackberrry Bold from their customers. The phone freezes up and then takes 10 minutes to restart. For this reason I would not ever buy another outdated usless Blackberry product. I am going to buy an Iphone since many of my friends have done the same thing and are very happy.
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How to get the Ifone 4 for free at ifone4.net
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I really appreciate the objectivity of the WirelessGround when they write these kind of articles. I am a Blackberry guy and this phone has me drooling at bit, but I agree that it comes down to individual user and what preferences they have. One thing i think you should also mention is the security of Blackberry devices vs the infamous security flaws of iPhones. Regardless of what the critics say, Blackberry devices are very secure. The inability for Middle Eastern governments to monitor traffic is the reason you see the Saudis and the UAE blocking Blackberry data because they cannot decrypt it. But again, i really do like to see objectivity in your site and it’s one of the reasons I frequent and subscribe to your blog. It gets tiring reading Fanboy sites that claim to be tech news blogs
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I have a corporate issued BB 8330 and I am bored to tears with it. You can only play hangman so many times before you you would rather switch to Russian roulette with 2 bullets just to liven things up a bit. BB are efficent and they get the job done and so does a Ford Focus, but would you rather drive a Focus or a GT Mustang?? It’s all about the apps and how much enjoyment it brings when your dropping $200. As far as I am concerned I would never shell out my own $ for a BB when I already have a prescription for Ambien.
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Why are there idiots like @Jos3 who are obsessed with Andriod when it has nothing to do with these phones…. heard of common sense @Jos3
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EVO Wins!!
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